Comments for My Word Like Fire http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com "Is not My Word like fire?" declares the Lord, "and like a hammer which shatters a rock?" (Jeremiah 23:29) Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:54:32 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Pro-A.A. author Dick B. protests by Dick B. http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/2009/08/11/pro-a-a-author-dick-b-protests/#comment-1039 Dick B. Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:54:32 +0000 http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/?p=2349#comment-1039 Glenn: I admire your speaking up to John. A former drunk devoted to calling A.A. heretical, an abomination, and all the rest seems more concerned with himself than with the need of tens of thousands of Christians in N.A., A.A., and other fellowships to learn where they came from, how the love and power of God, His Son, and the Bible are as vital to them today as they were to the original A.A. Christian Fellowship. The site has simply become an ad hominem attack vehicle, rather than an accurate, balanced, truthful review of the evidence of what God can do for those who want His help. Glenn: I admire your speaking up to John. A former drunk devoted to calling A.A. heretical, an abomination, and all the rest seems more concerned with himself than with the need of tens of thousands of Christians in N.A., A.A., and other fellowships to learn where they came from, how the love and power of God, His Son, and the Bible are as vital to them today as they were to the original A.A. Christian Fellowship. The site has simply become an ad hominem attack vehicle, rather than an accurate, balanced, truthful review of the evidence of what God can do for those who want His help.

]]> Comment on The inconvenient truth about Alcoholics Anonymous by mywordlikefire http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/the-inconvenient-truth-about-alcoholics-anonymous/#comment-1036 mywordlikefire Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:53:39 +0000 http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/?p=2516#comment-1036 John, This will probably be my last reply. God bless you. AA is not Biblical. It is an all-gods religion, and has taught many that "god" is within. http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/a-a-s-gospel-or-the-gospel-of-jesus/ John,
This will probably be my last reply. God bless you. AA is not Biblical. It is an all-gods religion, and has taught many that “god” is within.

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]]> Comment on The inconvenient truth about Alcoholics Anonymous by John http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/the-inconvenient-truth-about-alcoholics-anonymous/#comment-1035 John Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:32:59 +0000 http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/?p=2516#comment-1035 My experience with the "bad experiences" is that people need to lose their false conceptions of God and come to a true understanding of God, which is the real reason for the "God of your own understanding" in the steps. I have seen people enter the body of Christ because they were allowed the time and freedom to actually experience it for themselves, instead of just having someone else's conception of God shoved down their throat. By different conceptions of God, I am always referring to Jesus, but we each have our own conception, which is constantly changing as we are sanctified. The Holy Spirit does a great job of teaching me the truth, it's often painful, but always rewarding. As for not entering the kingdom, due to involvement in AA, that does not concern me in the least, I'm saved and that cannot change. I'm saved by grace through faith, not works (or doctrine), however faith without works is dead, and He brought me to AA, showed me the truth and now uses me within it. And the church is us not a particular building, denomination or organization, us, wherever we are. If He has something else in mind I'm sure it will be revealed in His time, and then each can make his own choice. I don't believe God would leave all the sick and wounded hearts that enter the halls of AA daily, nowhere to go. I can't believe that the steps are from hell, with all the fruit I've seen from it. I guess I just don't understand why someone with your faith, knowledge and experience has such a difficult time seeing AA as a great mission field. I've been on the mission field in Haiti, should i not have gone because they practice VooDoo? Is not our Job the Great Commission, there are no boundaries to where He is needed and none that He cannot overcome. My experience with the “bad experiences” is that people need to lose their false conceptions of God and come to a true understanding of God, which is the real reason for the “God of your own understanding” in the steps. I have seen people enter the body of Christ because they were allowed the time and freedom to actually experience it for themselves, instead of just having someone else’s conception of God shoved down their throat. By different conceptions of God, I am always referring to Jesus, but we each have our own conception, which is constantly changing as we are sanctified. The Holy Spirit does a great job of teaching me the truth, it’s often painful, but always rewarding. As for not entering the kingdom, due to involvement in AA, that does not concern me in the least, I’m saved and that cannot change. I’m saved by grace through faith, not works (or doctrine), however faith without works is dead, and He brought me to AA, showed me the truth and now uses me within it. And the church is us not a particular building, denomination or organization, us, wherever we are. If He has something else in mind I’m sure it will be revealed in His time, and then each can make his own choice. I don’t believe God would leave all the sick and wounded hearts that enter the halls of AA daily, nowhere to go. I can’t believe that the steps are from hell, with all the fruit I’ve seen from it. I guess I just don’t understand why someone with your faith, knowledge and experience has such a difficult time seeing AA as a great mission field. I’ve been on the mission field in Haiti, should i not have gone because they practice VooDoo? Is not our Job the Great Commission, there are no boundaries to where He is needed and none that He cannot overcome.

]]> Comment on The inconvenient truth about Alcoholics Anonymous by mywordlikefire http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/the-inconvenient-truth-about-alcoholics-anonymous/#comment-1033 mywordlikefire Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:06:56 +0000 http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/?p=2516#comment-1033 John, the whole "bad experiences" thing has been worked to point people away from the Body of Christ. I heard that so often at the AA meetings. And, no, I am certainly not saying this hasn't ever happened. But one of AA's functions (as I see it) is to constantly point people away from the Body of Christ and those intolerant Bible believing Christians. Setting Captives Free is an awesome, Biblical ministry, as one example. But I believe the Lord may have something else in mind--for however long the church is here. People need to be warned what we have been involved with. The time for ignoring Scripture, for God's people, is over. What would happen? 1 Corinthians 6: 9-11 John, the whole “bad experiences” thing has been worked to point people away from the Body of Christ. I heard that so often at the AA meetings. And, no, I am certainly not saying this hasn’t ever happened. But one of AA’s functions (as I see it) is to constantly point people away from the Body of Christ and those intolerant Bible believing Christians.

Setting Captives Free is an awesome, Biblical ministry, as one example. But I believe the Lord may have something else in mind–for however long the church is here. People need to be warned what we have been involved with. The time for ignoring Scripture, for God’s people, is over.

What would happen? 1 Corinthians 6: 9-11

]]> Comment on The inconvenient truth about Alcoholics Anonymous by John http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/the-inconvenient-truth-about-alcoholics-anonymous/#comment-1032 John Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:52:21 +0000 http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/?p=2516#comment-1032 It is His Grace that any of us are saved. What is your solution for those that are desperate enough to cry out to God, but because of bad experiences in childhood or just misconceptions about church, refuse to go? And what are you willing to do for those in the bondage of addictions? Are you assuming that if AA were to cease to exist that somehow the church would step up in it's place? It is His Grace that any of us are saved. What is your solution for those that are desperate enough to cry out to God, but because of bad experiences in childhood or just misconceptions about church, refuse to go? And what are you willing to do for those in the bondage of addictions? Are you assuming that if AA were to cease to exist that somehow the church would step up in it’s place?

]]> Comment on The inconvenient truth about Alcoholics Anonymous by mywordlikefire http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/the-inconvenient-truth-about-alcoholics-anonymous/#comment-1031 mywordlikefire Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:29:24 +0000 http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/?p=2516#comment-1031 Thanks, John. But I have been to AA and have seen how people are pointed away from Christ. Praise Him for those who are truly saved while in AA. This is His grace. Many false gods and false "christs" are worshiped in AA--we have to stop and say "No more." No more participation in this ungodly thing. 2 Corinthians 6:14-17. And you might not care that the 12 Steps are from hell, but the Lord does. And so do many of us. Thanks, John.
But I have been to AA and have seen how people are pointed away from Christ. Praise Him for those who are truly saved while in AA. This is His grace.

Many false gods and false “christs” are worshiped in AA–we have to stop and say “No more.”

No more participation in this ungodly thing. 2 Corinthians 6:14-17.

And you might not care that the 12 Steps are from hell, but the Lord does. And so do many of us.

]]> Comment on The inconvenient truth about Alcoholics Anonymous by John http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/the-inconvenient-truth-about-alcoholics-anonymous/#comment-1030 John Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:41:43 +0000 http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/?p=2516#comment-1030 AA’s co-founder called himself a psychic: I don't care if he talked to the Easter Bunny, the 12 steps are a path to Jesus, I know because that's how I got there. My theology is not what get's me through the really tough stuff in life, it comes from trust in, dependence upon, communion with Jesus, and that is available to anyone regardless of theology. I'm not saying to ignore theology, but certainly don't worship it. It is very easy to lose genuine deep connection with Jesus, too much of a good thing is never good, too much theology leads to an arrogant I got it all figured out attitude, that Jesus despises, see how he dealt with the Pharisees. Listen I bet there are just as many people in AA that have a genuine relationship with Jesus as there are in churches within the same county. True faith displays itself in love for one another period. Church attendance, bible study, what one says they believe mean nothing if they are not producing the fruit of love. You like to say that it is not common for someone to go to AA and come to know Christ, you are wrong. The content on this site is the very thing that gives true believers and non believers alike for "heady" Christians, all head knowledge, the only trust they have is in select verses of scripture, not the living Jesus. May you find Him deeper. AA’s co-founder called himself a psychic: I don’t care if he talked to the Easter Bunny, the 12 steps are a path to Jesus, I know because that’s how I got there. My theology is not what get’s me through the really tough stuff in life, it comes from trust in, dependence upon, communion with Jesus, and that is available to anyone regardless of theology. I’m not saying to ignore theology, but certainly don’t worship it. It is very easy to lose genuine deep connection with Jesus, too much of a good thing is never good, too much theology leads to an arrogant I got it all figured out attitude, that Jesus despises, see how he dealt with the Pharisees. Listen I bet there are just as many people in AA that have a genuine relationship with Jesus as there are in churches within the same county. True faith displays itself in love for one another period. Church attendance, bible study, what one says they believe mean nothing if they are not producing the fruit of love. You like to say that it is not common for someone to go to AA and come to know Christ, you are wrong. The content on this site is the very thing that gives true believers and non believers alike for “heady” Christians, all head knowledge, the only trust they have is in select verses of scripture, not the living Jesus. May you find Him deeper.

]]> Comment on The inconvenient truth about Alcoholics Anonymous by Barbara http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/the-inconvenient-truth-about-alcoholics-anonymous/#comment-1028 Barbara Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:21:08 +0000 http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/?p=2516#comment-1028 ection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, {false...: or, one A religious spirit (mindset) seeks to substitute religious activity for the power of the Holy Spirit and the grace of God in the believer’s life. The primary objective of a Religious Spirit (mindset) is to have the church “maintain an outward form of Godliness, while denying the power of the Holy Spirit. (1 Tim 3:5) This is accomplished by seeking to replace true repentance and grace, with religious performance and works The Religious Spirit: Operates in legalism Pride through works Manifests Control/Manipulation* Manifests a Critical Spirit---fault-finding, narrow criticism, setting up to failure syndromes, etc. : Matthew 22: 15 Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk. 16 And they sent out unto him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Master, we know that thou art true, and teachest the way of God in truth, neither carest thou for any man: for thou regardest not the person of men. 17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not? 2 18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites? Matthew 22:23-29 and 34-40-the Saducees and Pharisees tag team Jesus to TEST Him. Operates through diversion-draws attention from the main point to peripheral issues---and ultimately to itself* Seeks to lead, or usurp leadership (headship in marriages, Biblical leadership in ministry) Inflicts guilt I will be praying for deliverance for you. ection, trucebreakers,
false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, {false…: or, one
A religious spirit (mindset) seeks to substitute religious activity for the power of the
Holy Spirit and the grace of God in the believer’s life. The primary objective of a
Religious Spirit (mindset) is to have the church “maintain an outward form of Godliness,
while denying the power of the Holy Spirit. (1 Tim 3:5) This is accomplished by seeking to
replace true repentance and grace, with religious performance and works
The Religious Spirit:
Operates in legalism
Pride through works
Manifests Control/Manipulation*
Manifests a Critical Spirit—fault-finding, narrow criticism, setting up to failure
syndromes, etc. :
Matthew 22: 15 Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle
him in his talk.
16 And they sent out unto him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Master, we
know that thou art true, and teachest the way of God in truth, neither carest thou for any
man: for thou regardest not the person of men.
17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?
2
18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites?
Matthew 22:23-29 and 34-40-the Saducees and Pharisees tag team Jesus to TEST
Him.
Operates through diversion-draws attention from the main point to peripheral
issues—and ultimately to itself*
Seeks to lead, or usurp leadership (headship in marriages, Biblical leadership in
ministry)
Inflicts guilt
I will be praying for deliverance for you.

]]> Comment on The inconvenient truth about Alcoholics Anonymous by Barbara http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/the-inconvenient-truth-about-alcoholics-anonymous/#comment-1027 Barbara Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:49:47 +0000 http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/?p=2516#comment-1027 But just think tomorrow you can play "spiritual man" at church and raise AA up in prayer, so you can pray aloud for all to hear how deeply this saddens you, and the whole place can pray in tongues as another tear rolls down the cheek of Jesus. But just think tomorrow you can play “spiritual man” at church and raise AA up in prayer, so you can pray aloud for all to hear how deeply this saddens you, and the whole place can pray in tongues as another tear rolls down the cheek of Jesus.

]]> Comment on The inconvenient truth about Alcoholics Anonymous by Barbara http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/the-inconvenient-truth-about-alcoholics-anonymous/#comment-1026 Barbara Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:45:06 +0000 http://mywordlikefire.wordpress.com/?p=2516#comment-1026 Not exactly, I worship Jesus and Him only, don't need church to do that and I certainly don't need your opinion as to who I follow. Sure you couldn't imagine that though, since you worship the idol of religion and use it to manipulate encouragable young Christians to follow you, and make them "twice the sons of hell" you are to keep the legalistic train going. As for fellowship AA is much more real and honest as are my friends there, has nothing to do with worshiping an idol, it's just knowing the love of Christ when I see it. At first I thought you had a genuine concern for those in AA not hearing the truth. But after reading more on this site I know in my heart it's just more false Christianity trying to force their will and beliefs on others, and when they don't agree condemn them. And that is when it crosses the line and becomes a cult. If you were truly following Jesus you would be loving people into the kingdom, not threatening "salvation" unless people convert to your ideology. Not exactly, I worship Jesus and Him only, don’t need church to do that and I certainly don’t need your opinion as to who I follow. Sure you couldn’t imagine that though, since you worship the idol of religion and use it to manipulate encouragable young Christians to follow you, and make them “twice the sons of hell” you are to keep the legalistic train going. As for fellowship AA is much more real and honest as are my friends there, has nothing to do with worshiping an idol, it’s just knowing the love of Christ when I see it. At first I thought you had a genuine concern for those in AA not hearing the truth. But after reading more on this site I know in my heart it’s just more false Christianity trying to force their will and beliefs on others, and when they don’t agree condemn them. And that is when it crosses the line and becomes a cult. If you were truly following Jesus you would be loving people into the kingdom, not threatening “salvation” unless people convert to your ideology.

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